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Grantham, Burry Face Scrutiny Over Bearish Calls Amid Market Rally

Created at 29 Jun · 1:50 PM1 source↑ Market-relevant
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Prominent market bears Jeremy Grantham and Michael Burry are facing criticism over their long-standing predictions of market crashes and their recent bearish stances on AI stocks and Bitcoin. Critics argue their calls have been unheeded for years as major indices reach record highs.

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Key Numbers

70%potential tech stock crash predicted by Grantham
2 millionMichael Burry's X followers

Who's Involved

Jeremy Grantham
co-founder of asset manager GMO and market bear
Michael Burry
investor famous for 'The Big Short' trade
Joe Kernen
CNBC 'Squawk Box' co-host
John Paulson
investor who received advice from Burry
Greg Lippmann
market player who received advice from Burry
Peter Thiel
investor who received advice from Burry
Goldman Sachs
institution that received advice from Burry
Janet Tavakoli
derivatives expert who called Burry a pioneer
Mohnish Pabrai
value investor who received advice from Burry
Elon Musk
critic of Michael Burry's track record
Alex Karp
Palantir CEO and critic of Burry's AI shorts
Grantham, Burry Face Scrutiny Over Bearish Calls Amid Market Rally

↳ Why This Matters

The public clashes highlight the ongoing debate between market bears who predict downturns and bulls who point to persistent market rallies, raising questions about the value of long-term bearish investment strategies and the accuracy of high-profile market predictions.

Key facts

  • Jeremy Grantham predicted a potential 70% or more crash in tech stocks and dismissed bitcoin.
  • Grantham's long-term bearish calls have coincided with significant market rallies, leading to criticism.
  • Michael Burry defended his originality in creating the trade that bet against subprime mortgage-backed securities.
  • Burry claims he shared his insights with prominent investors and institutions, including John Paulson and Goldman Sachs.
  • Critics, including CNBC's Joe Kernen, Elon Musk, and Palantir CEO Alex Karp, have questioned the track records of both Grantham and Burry.

Market bears Jeremy Grantham and Michael Burry are facing increased scrutiny and criticism over their long-standing predictions of market downturns, particularly as major stock indices reach record highs. Grantham, co-founder of asset manager GMO, recently told CNBC that early investors in artificial intelligence would suffer losses similar to those in past booms, predicting a potential 70% or more crash in tech stocks. He also dismissed bitcoin as a speculative asset destined to disappear.

During the interview, CNBC's Joe Kernen challenged Grantham's track record, suggesting his repeated warnings of a crash have been unheeded for years, causing disservice to those who followed his advice. Grantham defended his calls, disputing the notion that he has been consistently wrong.

Meanwhile, Michael Burry, known for his bet against the subprime mortgage market, has been defending the originality of his famous trade. After posting about his 'lone wolf' nature on X, he faced comments questioning whether he was truly alone in his wager. Burry asserted that he originated the trade and shared his insights with various market players, including John Paulson, Greg Lippmann, Peter Thiel, and Goldman Sachs. Derivatives expert Janet Tavakoli supported Burry's claim, calling him a 'pioneer' for his analysis of vulnerable subprime mortgages and complex financial instruments.

Burry, who has also warned about an AI bubble and has taken short positions against companies like Nvidia and Palantir, has faced similar public criticism from figures like Elon Musk and Palantir CEO Alex Karp, who have called his bearish calls inaccurate.

Frequently asked questions

Jeremy Grantham predicted that early investors in AI would lose their shirts, similar to past booms, and that tech stocks could eventually crash 70% or more.

Michael Burry is defending his originality in creating the credit default swap trade that bet against subprime mortgage-backed securities during the mid-2000s housing bubble.

Critics of Michael Burry's market calls include Elon Musk, who called him a 'broken clock,' and Palantir CEO Alex Karp, who described Burry's AI shorts as 'batshit crazy.'

Grantham's comments led to a heated exchange with CNBC's Joe Kernen, who challenged his track record, and the spat quickly went viral on social media.

What Happens Next

01Whether Grantham and Burry's bearish predictions will ultimately prove correct remains an open question.

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How It Developed

Jeremy Grantham predicted AI investors would lose money and tech stocks could crash 70% or more.
Grantham dismissed bitcoin as worthless speculation.
CNBC's Joe Kernen challenged Grantham's track record, stating his predictions have not materialized.
Grantham defended his calls, disagreeing that he has been consistently wrong.
Michael Burry defended his role in creating the credit default swap trade against subprime mortgages.
Commenters questioned Burry's claim of being a 'lone wolf' in his famous trade.
Burry stated he originated the trade and shared it with other market players.
Janet Tavakoli called Burry a pioneer for his analysis of subprime mortgages and CDOs.

Sources

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Legendary market bears Jeremy Grantham and Michael Burry clash with critics over their track recordsBusiness Insider

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