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Alibaba to charge major users of its next open-source AI model

Created at 7 Aug · 1:06 AM1 source↑ Market-relevant
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Chinese tech giant Alibaba plans to charge major users of the upcoming Qwen3.8-Max open-source AI model a share of their revenue, following a similar model used by AI startup Moonshot. This move signals a convergence in business models among Chinese AI firms aiming to compete with U.S. rivals.

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Key Numbers

$20 millionannual sales threshold for Moonshot commercial agreement
30%revenue share Moonshot may require

Who's Involved

Alibaba
Chinese technology giant planning new AI model monetization
Moonshot
Chinese AI startup with a revenue-sharing model for its Kimi K3 model
Paddy Srinivasan
CEO of DigitalOcean Holdings, confirming commercial agreement with Moonshot
Mira Murati
Former CTO of OpenAI, founder of Thinking Machines Lab
Lin Qiao
CEO and co-founder of Fireworks AI
Alibaba to charge major users of its next open-source AI model

↳ Why This Matters

This development indicates a strategic shift by Chinese AI companies to monetize their advanced open-source models, potentially creating new revenue streams and intensifying competition with U.S. tech giants in the rapidly growing AI market.

Key facts

  • Alibaba plans to implement a revenue-sharing model for its upcoming Qwen3.8-Max open-source AI model.
  • This model follows a similar strategy to Moonshot's Kimi K3, which requires commercial agreements for high-revenue users.
  • Alibaba's move aims to capture market share from U.S. AI rivals by monetizing heavy commercial use of its open-source offerings.
  • Previously, Alibaba charged for models on its cloud but allowed free use in customer data centers.
  • Chinese AI firms are adopting a 'freemium' model, offering initial access at low or no cost and charging for extensive commercial use and advanced services.

Chinese technology giant Alibaba is preparing to charge major users of the next version of its Qwen open-source AI model a share of the revenue they generate from it, according to sources familiar with the company's plans. This strategy mirrors that of Chinese AI startup Moonshot, which has a similar provision in its Kimi K3 model's licensing terms.

Alibaba's Qwen3.8-Max model, like Moonshot's Kimi K3, is an open-source, open-weight model, meaning its underlying settings are available for download. This contrasts with closed-source models from U.S. developers like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google.

Moonshot's license requires companies generating over $20 million in annual sales to negotiate a commercial agreement, with one source indicating a potential revenue share of up to 30%. Alibaba plans a similar revenue-sharing approach, though the specific rate is still under discussion. Chinasoft International has already disclosed a revenue-sharing deal with Moonshot.

This move by Chinese AI firms signals a convergence toward a business model that offers initial access at low or no cost, with charges for heavy commercial use and additional services, a strategy often seen in Silicon Valley. Companies like DigitalOcean Holdings are already offering Chinese models under commercial agreements.

The open-source AI landscape is also seeing increased participation from U.S. firms, with Thinking Machines Lab, founded by former OpenAI CTO Mira Murati, having released its first open-source model.

Frequently asked questions

An open-source AI model, particularly an open-weight model, means its underlying learned settings are available for download, allowing developers to run or adapt the system.

Alibaba plans to ask major users of its Qwen3.8-Max model to share a portion of the revenue they generate from it.

Open-source models make their underlying settings available for download, while closed-source models keep these details proprietary.

Yes, Chinese AI startup Moonshot has a similar provision in its Kimi K3 model's licensing, requiring commercial agreements for high-revenue users.

What Happens Next

01Alibaba is expected to release its Qwen3.8-Max model next week.
02Discussions regarding the specific revenue share rate for Alibaba's model are ongoing.

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How It Developed

Alibaba plans to charge major users of its next open-source AI model a share of their revenue.
The Qwen3.8-Max model is an open-source, open-weight model, similar to Moonshot's Kimi K3.
Moonshot's Kimi K3 license requires partners generating over $20 million annually to reach a commercial agreement.
Alibaba has previously charged for models hosted on its cloud but allowed free use in customer data centers.
Chinasoft International disclosed a revenue-sharing agreement with Moonshot.
Cloud computing firms like DigitalOcean Holdings offer Chinese models and have commercial agreements.
Open-source AI is expanding, with U.S. firms like Thinking Machines Lab releasing models.

Sources

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Exclusive-Alibaba plans to charge big users of its next open-source AI model, sources sayReuters

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